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OK, so it looks like Honda is getting more serious and responding up to KTM's dominance of the off-road and dual sport market by offering with the 2019 CRF250RX and street-legal 2019 CRF450L:

https://powersports.honda.com/2019/crf250rx.aspx

https://powersports.honda.com/2019/crf450l.aspx

Granted, Honda did introduce the 2018 CRF450RX but a 450 is way too much power for most East Coast riders.

I am glad that Honda and Yamaha have gotten more and more involved again the off-road and dual sport market.  Hopefully, this added competition and pressure will force KTM to stop being so cocky with their pricing.

But, I am still sort of missing the mid to late 90's when Suzuki dominated off-road racing and the dual sport market.

Anywho, here is an early 3rd party review:

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/2019-honda-crf450l-announced/

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Understanding Honda’s strict durability standards for street-legal machines, we have little doubt that a properly-maintained CRF450L would handle the rigors of long-sustained travel. So far on paper, the only thing that might put a damper on riding this machine is a curb weight that tips the scales a bit heavy for the class. At a claimed 289 pounds wet (the new CRF450X is 275 pounds), the CRF450L is about 34 pounds heavier than a KTM 500 EXC-F. Also, depending on your budget, the target price of $10,399 might be a little steep but it is still about $600 cheaper than the Austrian 500s of the same style.

At 30 lbs heavier, though they will definitely need to be more most cost competitive (than $600 cheaper) to dethrone KTM.

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Craigslist and Ebay ads / Re: ATV For Sale
« Last post by redrider911 on May 16, 2018, 06:51:44 pm »
That is one of those narrow dork wheelers I think. Would be good to have to clear some single track. $900 seems high though
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Dirtbike, quad, and street bike talk / Re: 2016 Shercos
« Last post by Trail Ryder on May 14, 2018, 12:16:51 pm »
I see a few issues besides that.

1) French.  Aside from being unlikable, they also build weird shit that is different from anything else, with marginal quality.  I guess when you only work 35 hours a week, 42 weeks a year...:)

2) 17 dealers nationally.  http://shercooffroad.com/wp/?page_id=206#/map
Seems like a bike with so little support could have parts disappear in a heartbeat.


Looks like they are now up to 18 dealers.  LOL

And still no kick-start (a total deal breaker for me).

Anywho, here is a test of the 2018 SHERCO 300SE-R 2-Stroke:

https://dirtbikemagazine.com/2018-sherco-300se-r-2-stroke-full-test/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Dirt%20Bike%20News%205-6&utm_content=Dirt%20Bike%20News%205-6+CID_969a62564a57fd9312b98992d517fb69&utm_source=create%20send&utm_term=2018%20SHERCO%20300SE-R%202-STROKE%20FULL%20TEST

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Dirtbike, quad, and street bike talk / Re: $11,699!!!
« Last post by redrider911 on May 10, 2018, 07:55:08 pm »
Ktm is getting retarded with these prices. I wish the jap bikes would catch up
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Dirtbike, quad, and street bike talk / Re: $11,699!!!
« Last post by Trail Ryder on May 10, 2018, 04:08:48 pm »
they will prob sell everyone too

8 months later and they are still asking MSRP:  https://rochester.craigslist.org/mcd/d/2018-ktm-450-exc-six-days/6584523490.html

And it hasn't sold.  Go figure.
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Rides and Where To Ride / Re: May 27 -- S I N G L E T R A C K
« Last post by Clayfan on May 09, 2018, 03:08:13 pm »
Barnstormers is good but you boys should try Redline Brewery in Barrie.  http://www.redlinebrewhouse.com/

I highly recommend "Check Engine" Amber or "Speed Wobble"  or "Peel Out" double IPA.

Food is excellent Pub Menu as well.

See you guys on the 27th
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Rides and Where To Ride / Re: May 27 -- S I N G L E T R A C K
« Last post by redrider911 on May 03, 2018, 08:54:08 pm »
Yeah but you get a plastic trophy! Seriously though, if you haven't done a ds ride you need to sell your bike
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Rides and Where To Ride / Re: May 27 -- S I N G L E T R A C K
« Last post by Trail Ryder on May 03, 2018, 02:57:05 pm »
Awesome ride! No hero type sections. Just beautiful flowing trail.

Why would you want to ride 5-6 hours of flowing single track when you can go to a 2-hour CNYOA rut fest, or sit around and wait all day to do 2 15-minute motos???
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